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The interview room smelled of disinfectant because its last inhabitant, a drunken seventeen-year-old joyrider, had puked up a take-away pizza all over the floor. Other than that, the room was clean enough, though very little light filtered in through the high barred window. Banks inserted tapes in the machine, tested them, and then went through the immediate formalities of time, date and those present.

“Right, Lucy,” he said when he’d finished. “Ready to begin?”

“If you like.”

“How long have you been living in Leeds?”

“What?”

Banks repeated the question. Lucy looked puzzled by it but said, “Four years, more or less. Ever since I started working at the bank.”

“And you came from Hull, from your foster parents Clive and Hilary Liversedge?”

“Yes. You know that already.”

“Just getting the background clear, Lucy. Where did you live before then?”

Lucy started to fidget with her wedding ring. “Alderthorpe,” she said quietly. “I lived at number four Spurn Road.”

“And your parents?”

“Yes.”

“Yes what?”

“Yes, they lived there, too.”

Banks sighed. “Don’t play games with me, Lucy. This is a serious business.”

“Don’t you think I know that?” Lucy snapped. “You drag me out of hospital all the way up here for no reason, and then you start asking about my childhood. You’re not a psychiatrist.”

“I’m just interested, that’s all.”

“Well, it wasn’t very interesting. Yes, they abused me, and yes, I was taken into care. The Liversedges were good to me, but it’s not as if they were my real parents or anything. When the time came, I wanted to go out on my own in the world, put my childhood behind me and make my own way. Is there anything wrong with that?”

“No,” said Banks. He wanted to find out more about Lucy’s childhood, especially the events that occurred when she was twelve, but he knew he wasn’t likely to find out much from her. “Is that why you changed your name from Linda Godwin to Lucy Liversedge?”

“Yes. Reporters kept bothering me. The Liversedges arranged it with the social services.”

“What made you choose to move to Leeds?”

“That’s where the job was.”

“The first one you applied for?”

“That I really wanted. Yes.”

“Where did you live?”

“I had a flat off Tong Road at first. When Terry got the job at Silverhill, we bought the house on The Hill. The one you say I can’t go back to, even though it’s my home. I suppose you expect me to keep making the mortgage payments while your men rip the place apart, too?”

“You moved in together before you were married?”

“We already knew we were getting married. It was such a good deal at the time that we’d have been fools to turn it down.”

“When did you marry Terry?”

“Just last year. The twenty-second of May. We’d been going out together since the summer before.”

“How did you meet him?”

“What does that matter?”

“I’m just curious. Surely it’s a harmless question.”

“In a pub.”

“Which pub?”

“I can’t remember what it was called. It was a big one, though, with live music.”

“Where was it?”

“Seacroft.”

“Was he by himself?”

“I think so. Why?”

“Did he chat you up?”

“Not in so many words. I don’t remember.”

“Did you ever stay at his flat?”

“Yes, of course I did. It wasn’t wrong. We were in love. We were going to get married. We were engaged.”

“Even then?”

“It was love at first sight. You might not believe me, but it was. We’d only been going out two weeks when he bought me my engagement ring. It cost nearly a thousand pounds.”

“Did he have other girlfriends?”

“Not when we met.”

“But before?”

“I suppose so. I didn’t make a fuss about it. I assumed he’s led a pretty normal life.”

“Normal?”

“Why not?”

“Did you ever see any evidence of other women in his flat?”

“No.”

“What were you doing in Seacroft when you lived off Tong Road? It’s a long way.”

“We’d just finished a week’s training course in town and one of the girls said it was a good place for a night out.”

“Had you heard of the man the papers at the time called the Seacroft Rapist?”

“Yes. Everybody had.”

“But it didn’t stop you going to Seacroft.”

“You have to live your life. You can’t let fear get the better of you, or a woman wouldn’t even dare go out of the house alone.”

“That’s true enough,” said Banks. “So you never suspected that this man you met might be the Seacroft Rapist?”

“Terry? No, of course not. Why should I?”

“Was there nothing at all in Terry’s behavior that gave you cause for concern?”

“No. We were in love.”

“But he abused you. You admitted this the last time we talked.”

She looked away. “That came later.”

“How much later?”

“I don’t know. Christmas, maybe.”

“Last Christmas?”

“Yes. Around then. But it wasn’t like that all the time. Afterward, he was wonderful. He always felt guilty. He’d buy me presents. Flowers. Bracelets. Necklaces. I really wish I had them with me now to remember him by.”

“In time, Lucy. So he always made up to you after he hit you?”

“Yes, he was wonderful to me for days.”

“Was he drinking more these past few months?”

“Yes. He was out more, too. I didn’t see him as much.”

“Where was he?”

“I don’t know. He didn’t tell me.”

“Didn’t you ever ask him?”

Lucy looked away demurely, turning her bruised side on him. Banks got the message.

“I think we can move on, can’t we, Superintendent,” said Julia Ford. “My client’s clearly getting upset with this line of questioning.”

Pity for her, Banks wanted to say, but he had plenty more ground to cover. “Very well.” He turned to Lucy again. “Did you have anything to do with the abduction, rape and murder of Kimberley Myers?”

Lucy met his gaze, but he couldn’t see anything in her dark eyes; if the eyes were the windows of the soul, then Lucy Payne’s were made of tinted glass and her soul wore sunglasses. “No, I didn’t,” she said.

“What about Melissa Horrocks?”

“No. I had nothing to do with any of them.”

“How many were there, Lucy?”

“You know how many.”

“Tell me.”

“Five. That’s what I read in the papers, anyway.”

“What did you do with Leanne Wray?”

“I don’t understand.”

“Where is she, Lucy? Where’s Leanne Wray? Where did you and Terry bury her? What made her different from the others?”

Lucy looked in consternation at Julia Ford. “I don’t know what he’s talking about,” she said. “Ask him to stop.”

“Superintendent,” Julia said, “my client has already made it clear she knows nothing about this person. I think you should move on.”

“Did your husband ever mention any of these girls?”

“No, Terry never mentioned any of them.”

“Did you ever go in that cellar, Lucy?”

“You’ve asked me all this before.”