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He’d frowned at the mention of Longinus’s name, but the frown cleared.

‘Longinus and Graecinus were together when you visited Longinus’s house, weren’t they?’ he said.

‘Yes, they were.’ I was cautious. ‘With Anicius Cerialis and another man. Valerius Asiaticus.’

‘And you thought they might all be in it together? It at the time simply being Surdinus’s murder?’

‘Yes, Caesar. More or less. It was a possibility, anyway.’

‘Only it turned out to be a conspiracy against me?’

I was beginning to wonder where all this was leading. It was leading somewhere, that was for sure: like I said, there was nothing wrong with Gaius’s intelligence. Mad or not, the emperor was a smart cookie.

He smiled. ‘Well, I can set your mind at rest there, anyway, to a certain extent. Regarding the conspiracy if not the murder. Cerialis you know about; Felix told you, he was our man on the inside. Longinus … a conspirator in embryo, maybe, but not a de facto one, fortunately for him. He’s had a shock, and if he’s wise he’ll learn from it. Asiaticus, now … oh dear, oh dear, oh dear!’ He laughed. ‘Marcus, cherub, you cannot possibly suspect Asiaticus!’

‘Why not, Caesar?’

‘The man’s a joke. A fat cuckold with the backbone of a slug. You know why he resigned his consulship five years ago? He said he couldn’t take the pressure, told me so himself. Fact! Marcus, I ask you, common sense, now: what sort of politician does that make him, let alone a conspirator or a murderer? These cold-minded bastards in the senate, they thrive on pressure, they eat it for breakfast, lunch and dinner. All Asiaticus cares about is his belly and swanking around his fancy gardens. Take him off your list, petal, is my advice. I’d as soon suspect my idiot Uncle Claudius.’

Yeah, well, fair enough: Gaius knew him, and I didn’t. And Gaius, in that sense at least, had his head properly screwed on to his shoulders.

‘You’re probably right, Caesar,’ I said.

‘Of course I’m bloody right! Oh, I’ve had Felix pull him in along with the others, but it was just for fun, to tickle him up, give him a little shock, have him pissing in his pants, the tosser.’ He swallowed some more of his wine. ‘Moving on. What put you on to Herennius Capito?’

‘Nothing, sir. Or nothing as such. It was his son I was interested in. He was the last person to see Sextus Papinius alive, and I thought — still think — that he’d had him killed to prevent him talking to me.’

‘Hmm.’ Gaius was frowning again. ‘I could’ve seen you far enough over that business, Marcus. You lost us a good source of information there. He’d still have been alive if it hadn’t been for your cack-handed faffing about.’ Yeah; and downstairs having his dick burned off with a red hot poker. Somehow I didn’t feel too guilty about that. I kept quiet. ‘Even so, we’ve got the father. Or had, anyway.’

‘Had?’

‘Capito’s dead. Died under torture. It should never have happened; sheer damn carelessness on the slaves’ part. After all, what do I keep those jumped-up butchers for?’

Well, at least he was out of it, and again that was a relief rather than anything else. ‘He say anything useful?’

‘Useful to you, you mean, about your man Surdinus?’ Gaius got up, went over to the table where the wine was, brought back the decanter and topped up both our cups. ‘Of course not. If he had I would’ve told you, petal. Not all that useful to me, either, as it turned out. Load of bloody nonsense. But then Capito was a coward; he’d say anything to avoid the pain, and he was babbling at the end so badly you couldn’t make out the half of it.’

‘You were there?’

The frown deepened.

‘He was one of my own,’ he said. ‘Been with me from the start, and Tiberius before me. I thought he was loyal, I’d trusted the fucker, and that’s how he repaid me. I wanted to watch him bleed and hear him scream. Of course I was bloody there!’

‘So what did he say?’

A sudden smile. ‘Nonsense, like I told you, cherub. Not that it started like that, mind, because the first name he came up with was his immediate boss, Callistus. No surprises there, on the surface: Callistus is one of my freedmen, Capito’s a knight, so the seniority should’ve gone the other way. It didn’t, at least de facto, because Callistus is a shit-hot accountant, which Capito isn’t. Capito has always hated his guts, so if he knew he had to go, he might as well take Callistus with him. You see?’

‘Yeah. Yes, Caesar, I see.’ Fair enough.

‘On the other hand, Callistus is a scheming, ambitious bastard who’d take to conspiracy like a duck takes to water.’

‘Ah. Right.’

Gaius grinned and set down his wine cup. ‘You know, Marcus, petal, I do enjoy talking to you,’ he said. ‘Even when you’re doing the careful Yes, Caesar and No, Caesar bit and answering in monosyllables, I feel that I’m dealing with a working brain, not just a ragbag collection of petty ambition, half-baked prejudices, vested interests and self-serving tat. Believe me, that’s what I get in this job, most of the time, and it is just so boring you would not believe. I’m glad I didn’t have you killed.’

I half-smiled myself, despite the touch of cold on my spine at the offhand tone. Yeah, when you got Gaius on a good day — or maybe a good half-hour might be more realistic, given the pace of the mood changes — there was something there apart from the monster that I could identify with and even feel sympathy for. It was buried pretty deep, mind you, and the rest of the psychotic bugger was a walking toxic nightmare you wouldn’t want to get within a mile of, no arguments, but there it was.

‘Me, too, Caesar,’ I said.

‘Ah, the monosyllables again. Well, well.’ He sighed, picked up the cup and drank some more of his wine. ‘So. Callistus was a definite possible, and so was the next name. Arrecinus Clemens.’

‘Who’s Clemens?’

‘One of the Praetorian prefects.’

‘Ah.’

Another grin. ‘As you say, dear, and justifiably so, ah. Again, perfectly possible and believable. Certainly that, yes, but no more: I’ve nothing in particular against Clemens. He’s a knight, of course, although from a nothing of a family, and he’s good at his job. He’s loyal, or if he isn’t he’s given me no reason to suspect it, and more important he’s neither ambitious nor a risk-taker. Very god-fearing, although his god-fearing-ness, if there is such a word, does take peculiar forms.’

‘Such as?’

‘He seems very taken with the Jews, poor lamb — don’t, please, ask me why, cherub, the silly stiff-necked buggers — and them with him. In fact, they call him just that, “The God-fearer”, although in their case they’re being quite specific. Still and all, I thought he was one of my prefects, top of the Praetorian tree, and if you’re organizing a conspiracy then who better to have on your side than a Guard commander? No, I was perfectly prepared to believe in Clemens as a conspirator. Particularly because, as far as I knew, Capito didn’t know him from Romulus.’

‘So where did the nonsense come in?’

‘Oh, that! The third name he came out with was my wife’s. Caesonia’s. Now don’t laugh, petal.’ I wasn’t going to. ‘But really, it’s ridiculous, isn’t it? Caesonia wouldn’t conspire against me. She hasn’t a conspiratorial bone in her body or thought in her fluffy little head. To tell you the truth, she hasn’t got all that much in her fluffy little head to begin with. Great little body, though. Anyway, that’s where he lost me. I mean, credibility’s one thing. Callistus and Clemens, fine, in theory, but did he take me for a gullible bloody imbecile? So no, I decided we could forget friend Capito. Then of course the treacherous sod went and died on me, and that was that.’ He suddenly yawned and stretched. ‘Marcus, dear, I wonder if you’d excuse me? I know it’s only the middle of the afternoon, but these sessions downstairs are so tiring, and I had quite a heavy night last night. A nap, I think. You don’t mind if I throw you out now?’