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In reality, what happened is that not only had he been doing drugs with his sub­jects, but he had been doing something that is an absolute ethical no-no: He had been billing his research subjects for his time. In a research experiment, you can't charge the subjects. This is highly immoral and unethical.

One of the things that I learned in the course of this meeting at the JY Ranch with Laurance Rockefeller was that David Rockefeller, of Chase Manhattan Bank and Nelson, who had been US Vice President and had passed away, were very much involved in the secret government. Laurance Rockefeller knew of these things but he was really more of the philosopher king of the family and was not the power guy. He was a professional philanthropist, who genuinely wanted to just give away his wealth before he died.

Unfortunately, he had morally inept people surrounding him, including this nest of CIA people, not the least of which was the 'woman in red' whose husband was CIA.

So into this mess steps Laurance Rockefeller wanting to support get- ting informa­tion out about this subject. But his money is intercepted by CIA operatives and ne'er-do-wells and is funneled away into bogus abduction research, substance abuse, and all kinds of other craziness.

One man in Laurence's circle specifically intercepted what would have been an enormous amount of funding for CSETI to have a CE5 Initiative professionally supported, and took it into his own institute, so it could then be funneled back into other clandestine operations.

This I know for a personal fact.

So Laurance had some very good intentions, but was surrounded by a circle that was infested with a number of intelligence operatives who were hell bent on keep­ing his resources away from productive work.

Their task was to open a toilet lid and put millions of dollars in it and then flush it into the sewer. And that is what they did. I witnessed it firsthand, and it was a tragedy of the first order of magnitude.

Eventually, Laurance Rockefeller's whole interest in this area got intercepted by this 'woman in red', whose ethics were appalling.

Around this same time, we had put together a series of documents that consti­tuted what is called "The Best Available Evidence." In the spirit of collegiality, I shared this openly as a work-in-progress with Laurance and with other people.

It turns out that the 'woman in red' intercepted it, took Laurance Rockefel­ler's and one of CSETI's stalwart supporter's money and hired a writer within the UFO community He then took it, rewrote it, put their name on it, copyrighted it and stole it from us. Later, when we tried to use it for further free and open brief­ings, she hired one of the biggest law firms in Washington and threatened to sue me! How nice... This, after they stole the concept, including the title of the entire document.

Notwithstanding these issues, I developed a bond with Laurance. I had some very lovely times with him and his wonderful wife, Mary.

I recall, towards the end of one evening, Laurance and I walked out onto a wooden deck off from the lodge where we were meeting at his ranch. On this deck was a statue of a Native American on horseback with headdress, arms out­stretched to the stars.

We were looking up at the sky and talking.

Laurence turned to me, and said, "You realize that no aspect of life on earth will be unchanged by this matter being disclosed, so profound and far-reaching are the im­plications."

"Yes, Laurance, that's why it's secret and that's why it has to happen." I said. "But we need your help."

"I want to help." He said. "But my family is already jumping up and down on my feet because I'm involved this much!"

"You still need to do the right thing here." I replied. "It's much too

dangerous." He said.

"Well, Laurance, my God, you're old, you're rich, and you're a Rockefel­ler!"

He replied, "My hands are tied. But know this — you have to do it.. Think of it this way: It's like a flock of geese in a "V" formation, and you need to be up here at the front breaking new territory, and we will be back here."

"Oh!" I laughed, "Yes, after I have broken all the resistance of the head wind."

"But I have to stay back here." He said. "I can't be up there. The family won't have it."

So you have people like Laurance Rockefeller, who really wanted to do the right thing- but he allowed his wings to be clipped by family loyalties, and was sur­rounded by a mob of intelligence operatives and spooks who were hell bent on intercepting his interests, and making sure that whatever support he could give, went into the toilet.

Many wonderful things happened, including the fact that we were able to put together briefing materials which Laurance Rockefeller used to personally brief Bill and Hillary Clinton at the "JY" Ranch.

You may remember that the first couple of summers of the Clinton White House, the Clintons would spend vacations at the Rockefeller Ranch. Laurance gave the ranch to Senator Jay Rockefeller from West Virginia, but it was still the family ranch. There, they were able discuss with Bill and Hillary Clinton the in­formation we had assembled on the ET matter. Laurance was sincerely trying to get this information to the right people.

I later found out from a friend of the Clinton's that when President Clinton re­turned to the White House and was reviewing the briefing documents again he exclaimed —and she did a perfect impersonation of Bill Clinton— " I know this is all true, but God damn it, they won't tell me a thing. Not a God damned thing !"

Later I was invited to go to a meeting in New York to give a presentation at the home of a novelist named Judith Green, who had an apart- ment on Park Avenue. There was a large group of people present, including Mrs. Boutros Ghali, Rockefel­ler's representatives -- a whole group of people from high New York Society were present.

I spoke about contact with these life forms and what it would take to create a peaceful world here so that we could live in harmony with our extraterrestrial neighbors. My talk was very well-received and subsequently, I was able to meet with Mrs. Boutros Ghali.

It was disappointing, however, that some there had the misconceptions that are in rampant circulation in the mass media and UFO circles.

Those who put out distorted research dealing with cattle mutilations, human vivi­section, alien rapes and encounters get enormous funding from the covert group and their friends and contacts in the disinformation arm. They control and spin disinformation to the mainstream media, the UFO public, and what I call the "re­tail consumers of all things extraterrestrial", who swallow hook, line and sinker their harvest of fear.

They are very good at packaging it and seeing that only those aspects of the UFO subculture that support the party line of fear get financial support, publicity etc. Now, unfortunately, blowing the whistle on that hasn't endeared me to some folks, but the truth is, people need to know how clever this group is at duping researchers to put out disinformation.

For example, many so-called abduction researchers receive leads to abductees by being tipped off by these shadowy groups and their con- tacts. Often these leads are people who have been abducted in mind con- trol experiments that are run completely by shadowy human paramilitary operations.

The information out in the public on this subject is so polluted and corrupted with disinformation and hoaxed events,that you really have to scrap it and start all over.

This is not what I thought was true in 1990, but by 1993, I had heard it and seen it firsthand at the deepest and highest levels of the intelligence community. As I met first-hand with these shadowy groups and figures, this was no longer just a theory on my part, but became something I knew to be true.

Unfortunately, I have had to live with a terrible burden of how much of this to say to the public. We know it will create a firestorm of hatred against us by the very ma­chine that wants the world deceived. This huge disinformation campaign puts out enough fool's gold that the truth- the kernel of real gold- is buried under a moun­tain of fool's gold. And most people aren't doing an assay and wouldn't even think to do one!