One of the things that YH. shared with me is that she had become friends over the years with a number of people who have been involved in these types of projects, covertly. She knew Andrija Puharich, Marcel Vogel at IBM and others who had an enormous amount of knowledge— but their knowledge was being used to empower technologies within this shadowy, covert corporate world. She knew other people who played a dual role of acquiring information and passing it up the chain of com- mand, only to then go out to the public and spread disinformation.
One such figure is a physicist dealing with zero point energy. He told Y that he knew of actual operational free energy and zero point energy devices, but that he is NSA and naval intelligence. After speaking with this physicist, he virtually told me that he's an intelligence operative.
Yet, something that he explained to Y. caused me to have an enormous amount
of compassion for people in his position. At the same time, there's a certain element of revulsion. He said that he very much wanted the truth to come out and for these Earth-saving new energy technologies to be put into use, but that if he talked about what he knew, he was convinced his family and children would be killed.
It seems he had sold his soul to the devil, in the course of his career— and yet his whole being sincerely wants the world to have these wondrous new sources of clean energy. So, he's deeply conflicted. His role has been to say, "This is possible, but we don't yet have it," when, in real- ity, he knows we have these technologies but can't talk about them with- out risking his life and that of his family. This is a common theme.
The Disclosure Project's goal is to get people who have the courage of their convictions to come together as a team — and speak the truth! There is safety in numbers and credibility in numbers. But so many of these people we reached out to, in shadowy operations, would say to me, "I want the truth out, but I'd like to breathe the free air of Earth for another 30 days." Their fear was stronger than their sense of duty, and they felt that if they spoke out, they were dead men walking.
I also met with Congressman Christopher Cox, currently head of the Securities and Exchange Commission, and who is on the short list of people who eventually will be running for President of the United States in the Republican Party. Harvard-educated, he's a very bright man representing Orange County CA, and was on a number of key committees. A friend and supporter of CSETI, who knows Congressman Cox, and who is an executive with IBM in Orange County, asked me to brief him.
Shortly after the meeting began, Cox said, "I have no doubt this is true, but I've never heard of it, and I've been on some pretty important committees." So I told him about all the folks I've met with who are out of the loop who should be in the loop and that this is a common theme.
Remember, The Disclosure Project is not just disclosing things to the millions of people on the Internet and CNN, but also to people like Christopher Cox, who do need to know.
Sometimes these contacts and meetings happen rather mysteriously. At times I will go to a city, and lie down in my hotel room and ask, "Who is here that I need to speak with?" I will go into a meditative state and let my awareness travel to whomever it is I should see. I will then see a specific person, and decide, "I'm going to go to this particular place and ask this person to be there."
And when I go to that place, there they are! I see them exactly like I saw them in my meditation. They vaguely say, "You look familiar" I say, "Oh, yeah?" And then we talk, and they always ask, "Well, what do you do?" And I'll just flat out tell
them. Invariably, they will say something like," I work with SAIC -- Science Applications International Corporation -- and you don't know how right you are. Let me tell you about what I have seen." We have received information from dozens of important intelligence sources this way.
CHAPTER 20
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A Different Day
In 1994, I was invited to be on a special with Larry King. The show was broadcast live from near Nellis Air Force Base, Area 51. Larry King's producer, at the time, a guy named Farmer, told me it was the most watched special they'd ever had.
There was a point in the interview when Larry turned to me and he asked, "Well, what do you think the President knows about this?" As you now know, I had put together the briefing document for the President and Dr. Jack Gibbons, the science advisor to the President, and had met with the CIA Director the preceding December. So I said, "Well, I think you should ask the President that question." And I remember one of the other guests and Larry King said at the same instant: "What does that mean?" I said, "Well, I think it would be better if you asked the President that question." I was very cryptic.
Afterwards, in Larry King's trailer we spent some private time together, because he knew that I wasn't saying everything. He asked me what I was really up to and I confided in him off the record about our contacts to the President and that I had already briefed the CIA Director. He said, "My God, why didn't you say that on the air? That would have been a scoop! --" I said, "Because I'm still working with these people."
I was discreet about this meeting with the CIA Director until after he had left office in '95 or '96.
"My God, this stuff is really real?" Larry asked.
"Of course it is." I said. And then we had a very interesting conversation. Later I said, "But Larry, why are CNN and the other news outlets covering the OJ Simpson trial and tabloid trash like that 24/7? I don't know anyone who's even remotely interested in that stuff. Everyone's so sick of hearing about it."
"Well, we have to." He said.
"What do you mean, you have to? You're a journalist. Why don't you report the big stories of the day? This is the biggest story of the century" I exclaimed.
"Well, the corporate guys tell us that to keep our ratings up and com- pete with
the other networks, we have to cover this kind of lurid stuff, and they pay my big pay check. It's all about ratings, and ratings get the advertising dollars, and advertising dollars pay me my big salary." And he was just that direct about it.
I said, "Yes, but what about journalistic integrity and editorial discretion about what's important, what is really newsworthy?"
"Oh, come on." He said, "That's out the window and has been for years. It's all about money and ratings."
You don't think the big media can go any lower, until it hits another low point. It really is a race to the bottom - and they hit new lows every year!
There are also covert national security filters in place to keep these big, sensitive stories out of the news. The corruption of the media is the central reason for the secrecy.
In 1995, we organized the first gathering of witnesses. There were about 18 colonels and aerospace people and people from all over the United States and Russia. We gathered at Asilomar, which is a retreat in Pacific Grove, California, near Monterey. Laurance Rockefeller was very supportive of this and his people were there, as well as some of the initial witnesses.
It was all videotaped and audio taped, but the people, to whom I entrusted this task, took all the tapes and made a back-door deal with the Rockefeller group. So we don't have any of the records of that testimony! And to this day, we have not retrieved it.
Sometimes people will see me being very fierce and careful about people and organizations; there's a good reason for this. That kind of theft and betrayal has happened over and over again
In late 1996/ early 1997 we decided that we needed to do a formal briefing in Washington, DC to which we would invite government whistleblower witnesses and members of Congress and other influential political people to whom we had contacts.