Imagine what we could achieve if we had any real significant institutional support or funding! If we had had five or ten million dollars, we could have completely ended the secrecy.
A lot of this now is in the hands of the public; the information is there. People can put the testimony on cable access channels or show it in their communities. And this is happening all over the world.
The day after the National Press Club event, one of our military wit- nesses was outside the White House and had a Disclosure Project identification badge on. Andy Card, who is the Chief of Staff of the President, came out and saw it, and said, "Oh, the Disclosure Project. We've been watching this. Good luck with that!" This Disclosure military witness then gave Andy Card a briefing file, which Card then car- ried right into the White House! The "Washington Times" had a big half-page article about it, and that's the paper of record for the Republicans and certainly what they read at the White House.
The afternoon of the press conference, we began meeting with various members of Congress. I personally gave Senator Ted Kennedy the whole briefing document.
Congressman Kucinich, who is head of the progressive caucus in the Congress, invited us to his office for a sit-down briefing. There were nine of us who arrived immediately after the Disclosure Project National Press Club event. He sat with all of us and asked each witness to share a very short vignette of what they knew about the UFO matter.
After everyone had shared, he turned to me and looked me in the eyes and said, "I have to tell you that in all my years in Congress, I have never felt an energy and a spirit like I have today when you all walked through these doors." Then he said, "The fact that you are here tells me that time is short." He was the most perceptive government leader I have ever met— and certainly the most enlightened.
There are many people in the Congress who know what we're doing and are following it closely. We met with numerous members of Congress that week. John Cypher, the actor who introduced me at the National Press Club, and Carol Rosin, met with Daniel Golden, who at the time was the head of NASA. Golden came to NASA from Science Applications International Corporation. (Hmmmm — an interesting pattern develops..)
We continue to have meetings periodically with members of Congress about this. Congressman Virgil Goode, who is the Congressman for my home district, was on the House National Security Committee, and met with me for an hour, privately. He said, "I have been reading about what you've been doing, for some time— a lot of us have."
Then he said, "But, you know, there's another group that really runs the show. It's very shadowy, just as you've described. And we're [mem- bers of Congress] window dressing." He flat out told me: "Those of us in the Congress of the United States are window dressing." And I said, "Well, yes, sir, I know that. On the other hand, you have enough power to do something, if you collectively choose to do it." And we had a discussion about that. Towards the end of the meeting he said, "I really need to see the technologies. And that's what a lot of us are waiting for. What you need to do next is put together something that proves the technologies behind the phenomenon." I've heard this from a number of Congressmen.
Congressman Goode and I also discussed the extent to which the media is corrupt and controlled: If anyone did try to step out on this mat- ter— just as Congressman Schiff had— he would be cut off, ridiculed, and attacked. So, it isn't that there are no people in the Congress who are supportive of Disclosure -- there really are. But they feel like they don't have the ability to do what they would like to, because of the structural obstacles that are in place to contain Disclosure, the worst of which is the corruption and control of the mass media.
The big media is completely corrupted, infiltrated by the worst elements of this control group and is no more free, here in the United States, than the Chinese News Agency. In fact, the Chinese News Agency and Pravda did a better job reporting what we're doing than the "Washington Post", "Newsweek", "Time", etc.
The only free press is the insignificant press. And this is something people never think about. People say, "Well, you can say anything." I say, "Yes, you can put it on the Internet, where it gets ignored and lost in all the digital flotsam, or you can put it in some insignificant journal. But when you're talking about the big media, big Hollywood, big publishing, big newspapers, big electronic media and TV -- they are completely corrupted and controlled by shills for the secret government.
The large media empires have been horizontally and vertically inte- grated into the corporate trans-national shadow entity that maintains secrecy. The fox is guarding the henhouse. Bob Schwartz, who had been on the board of Time-Life, flat out said that the media have become scribes sitting at the right hand of the king, taking dictation. He said this to me in the early '90s, in New York. So we have no 'Fourth Estate' that's meaningful. The checks and balances that the founding fathers of America envisioned have been gone for decades.
A few prestigious well placed people are also used to control the spin of this information. One of the people YH. introduced me to after the
2001 Disclosure event in San Francisco was a man who is a very wealthy European financier and hotelier. He had just been at the Bohemian Grove - a retreat in California near the Russian River where the world power elites gather for meetings and recreation - with about 2,500 of the world's most prominent people.
This meeting was happening at the same time the Disclosure Project was being rolled out, with a multi-city tour. This man told us very influential people were asking about the Disclosure Project at this Bohemian Grove gathering.
To quell this interest, the control group got a prestigious member of the gathering to go on stage and tell everyone that he had been on the inside of these investigations for the government, and that there was nothing to it! It was, in fact, all swamp gas and misapprehension of explainable meteorites and natural phenomena. And this wealthy man who had attended the meeting asked me, "Why would they have some- one of that stature address us at the same time you're having this meet- ing with 1,000 people in San Francisco?" I said, "Because they operate by having a few 'respectable' people in every organization function as vectors of disinformation— whether it's the Bildebergers or CFR or the Tri- Lateral Commission or the Senate or the Vatican. Most of the people involved with these groups know nothing about these matters!" The conspiracy theorists are all wrong about how things are controlled. Masons -- virtually none of them know about this subject. Burl Ives knew little beyond what I told him. And he was a 32nd-degree Mason.
But there are always a few who do know, and it is their role to go to their peerage- because they have their trust and their respect-, and say, "None of this could be true, and you can trust me. I'm your buddy. I'm one of you." It's the country club mentality. They belong to the same peerage, and they're people of stature. But in reality such figures are on the payroll as assets of this shadowy group.
That is how the secrecy is maintained. It's actually very simple. And it's nowhere near as conspiratorial as many people would suppose. You don't need many of these control points if they're people of stature and have "high credibility and visibility". All they need to do is say, "None of this is true, and if it were true, you know I would tell you." Right.
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Witness Testimony
Following is a tiny fraction of the testimony obtained from the military government and corporate witnesses interviewed for The Disclosure Project. The entire testimony is in "Disclosure: Military and Government Witnesses Reveal the Greatest Secrets in Modern History" and may be obtained at www.disclosureproject.org.