KEERS: Okay.
(throat clearing)
KEERS: Okay. Okay we’re gonna stop right now.
SUFF: Okay.
KEERS: Because now I’m gonna give you a little more. You were told to tell the truth, okay.
SUFF: Okay.
KEERS: Is that what you wanna do is tell the truth?
SUFF: Please.
KEERS: And you have not told it all have you? Bill,
SUFF: I did.
KEERS: you haven’t told all the truth, have you?
SUFF: Go ahead.
KEERS: When you admit to me the truth. Have you told me all the truth?
SUFF: As far as I could remember, yes.
KEERS: Okay, I’m gonna help you, Bill. But I need you to tell me, you have not told me all the truth have you?
SUFF: Uuuhh, as far as I can remember, yes, I have been.
KEERS: You have a knife, Bill?
SUFF: Yes, I do.
KEERS: Okay, does that help you along a little bit, Bill?
SUFF: No. I didn’t stab her.
KEERS: Listen to me. You didn’t stab her?
SUFF: No. I didn’t cut her in any way at all. I swear to God I didn’t.
KEERS: Now Bill, we were just talking about the truth, okay?
SUFF: I didn’t do it.
KEERS: If you need me to help you get through this, I’ll do that because all I’m after here is the truth, okay? I’m here for the truth and the truth only and you know the truth. Okay?
SUFF: But I’ve been telling you the truth now.
KEERS: You haven’t. No, no you haven’t. Now I’ve give, I’ve given you, here’s what I’ve given you. I’ve given you the tire prints, I’ve given you the shoe prints, and now I’m gonna talk about your knife.
SUFF: I haven’t
KEERS: First of all, I’ll let you explain the knife. I’ll let you tell the truth now. I will let you do that. I want you to tell the truth.
SUFF: The knife was there.
KEERS: The knife was there.
SUFF: When I was there.
KEERS: The knife was
SUFF: It wasn’t my knife.
KEERS: It wasn’t?
SUFF: No. It was, the knife was sitting there.
KEERS: So what did you do with the knife?
SUFF: I picked that up also,
KEERS: In the orange
SUFF: with the clothes.
KEERS: groves. And where’d you, the knife?
SUFF: In the car.
KEERS: In the car.
SUFF: Yes.
KEERS: Now, where did you put it in the car?
SUFF: Uuuhhhh, it was in the box first. When I got home I took the clothes out and I stuck the knife up front.
KEERS: Ahm.
SUFF: In front of the tire.
KEERS: Aha.
SUFF: I found it there last night before I got stopped and I was thinkin’ I gotta get rid of this
KEERS: Ahm.
SUFF: and then the policeman was there. So I took it, slipped it up underneath the seat.
KEERS: You put the knife under in, what seat?
SUFF: The driver’s seat.
KEERS: Of your van.
SUFF: Yes.
KEERS: Okay. Was there anything on the knife?
SUFF: I don’t know if there was or not. Uh, it looked like there was some blood on it, but I didn’t know if it was blood or rust.
KEERS: Did you wipe it off?
SUFF: No. I didn’t think to do that.
KEERS: You didn’t. Now, okay, now why didn’t you tell the truth? I can tell you are, I really can tell you are. You’ve given some truth, you’ve given some lies.
SUFF: I am telling you the truth.
KEERS: Bill, Bill, I know you’re not giving me all the truth and you know you’re not giving me all the truth and I’m gonna give you some more information to help you get there.
SUFF: I don’t know.
KEERS: Okay? Do you wanna tell the truth?
SUFF: Yes.
KEERS: You wanna get this all done?
SUFF: Yes.
KEERS: Then you can’t lie.
SUFF: I don’t want to lie.
KEERS: Oh, I know you don’t.
SUFF: I want the truth out.
KEERS: I know you want to the truth out but you’re havin’ a hard time in telling the truth, Bill.
SUFF: I’m having a hard time remembering it all.
KEERS: Okay. Okay. Now let’s talk about the knife.
SUFF: Okay.
KEERS: Where’d you find the knife at Bill?
SUFF: The knife was stick, sticking out of her chest.
KEERS: Okay. Where in her chest?
SUFF: In the middle of her chest.
KEERS: Okay. And what did you do?
SUFF: I pulled it out.
KEERS: Okay. Then what did you do, Bill?
SUFF: I gathered the clothes up, so I thought I’d pick up the clothes. I put the knife with the clothes, then I put it in the car and I left.
KEERS: Are you right-handed or left-handed, Bill?
SUFF: I’m right-handed.
KEERS: You are?
SUFF: Yes.
KEERS: I heard you. I did. I told you that we have evidence. We have lots of evidence, okay? Now. You did something else with the knife, okay? Now I’m gonna give you the opportunity to tell me the truth, Bill. I don’t have to give the opportunity. You have to
SUFF: Yes.
KEERS: listen to me.
SUFF: I don’t remember.
KEERS: Okay. Let me finish. You have to give now of yourself the truth. I can’t give you everything. You have to give the truth. It’s right there. That was your knife that was in that girl.
SUFF: No, it wasn’t my knife.
KEERS: Okay. Okay. You found the knife in her chest.
SUFF: Yes.
KEERS: What did you do with it?
SUFF: I pulled the knife out.
KEERS: And?
SUFF: That’s it, Ma’am.
KEERS: You don’t
SUFF: I don’t.
KEERS: remember what we just got through talking about the truth?
SUFF: Yes.
KEERS: I’m giving you the opportunity to tell the truth.