for others will be, and make their decisions accordingly. This is no different than what they experience during everyday today. They may be told they have cancer, but consider who is dependent upon them and plot their life
accordingly. They may be told someone in the family or a neighbor is going to fall on hard times, and adjust
their own lifestyle downward to take them in and share what they have. They may be told someone nearby has
defaulted on their responsibilities, and step in without hesitation to fill the gap, being a father to fatherless
children or whatever. Thus, those strongly Service-to-Others would not be likely to utter a phrase such as "why
live?" as they know why troubled times in particular require one to be there for others.
Those strongly Service-to-Self sort this out in a similar manner, but in the other direction. As with their
everyday decisions, they look over the situation to see how it might be taken advantage of for their own pleasure
or power position. Since victims can be presented at any time, they assume many victims and looting and
plundering and savaging potential galore in a post pole shift situation. Thus, those highly Service-to-Self will
also not be likely to say "why live?" as they are licking their chops and rubbing their hands together.
The undecided are the ones likely to make the statement, "why live?" as they do not polarize in either direction, but rather think of their own life, and how they interact on a daily basis with other, or what they have come to expect as their daily fare. The focus is the self, but as a child focuses on the self. How will this affect me, what will I do when presented with this or that without the resources I've come to expect will be available to me. The immature spirit pushes the post pole shift scenario out only so far, to the edges of the cocoon they see their life
as, and see this cocoon not there. The job will be gone, friends and family may die or wander off, the store
shelves empty, the government offices simply not staffed, and whom do they go to with their complaints? Thus,
it is the immature, the undecided, who will present leaders in the Aftertime with motivation problems.
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The undecided have motive in life according to immediate pleasures, in the main. When they see suffering, before them, they feel compassion and may be motivated to give of their own good, or assist, giving of their time, but this
motivation vaporizes as soon as the painful situation is out of sight. They quickly react to a threat of having their
lifestyle diminished, or expectations of them increased such that life becomes more work and less play. Thus, to motivate a spiritually undecided individual is, in the main, to present them with suffering, without a buffer, or to
present them with a better life should they do this or that.
In a survival group, where undecideds are mixed in with strongly Service-to-Others individuals, the undecided
should not be allowed to avoid the sick room or pathetic crying of hungry infants. Force them into this presence, as choices will be made. They will either rise to the occasion and give of their time, being the better for it
overall, or get hostile. If the individual gets hostile, they are making an orientation decision, that their comfort is more important than assisting the suffering of others. In this, the group can decide if they wish to have this
member as a continuing drain, given the obvious orientation and mindset. If they grow toward empthy and
assisting others in pain and need, then they may in fact make a rapid transit to Service-to-Others orientation, a
bonus.
In focusing on the future, making a clear distinction on how the life of the individual, as well as the group, will be better should this or that task be done, works well with the undecided. This is not unlike a parent motivating
an immature child. They get desert if they do the dishes, get to watch TV if they finish their homework, or get to
go to the park if they clean their room. In the case of a post pole shift survival group, the carrot can be more
variety in the diet, less hunger, warmer or dryer quarters, or a chance to sight see a bit and travel.
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Nancy and ourselves are often asked how one can determine if a stranger, or even a familiar friend, is Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self. Those who are mature entities can sense this in the other's spirit, the soul, instantly. Nancy is often criticized for being abrupt with a questioner, but she knows the reason for the questions, the approach, the offer, etc. It is not the actions of the other, nor the words, that give this clue. How does she know? She reaches out and senses the
intent of the soul, and was wise in this judgment prior to this incarnation, one of the reasons she was allowed to proceed on this Communications role she has assumed, with all our support.
Immature entities, those young, who are always in an undecided position, not fully Service-to-Other in their
orientation, are confused. They are confused because they have not yet sorted out their own motivations, goals, and agendas. They themselves are presenting a persona that is often false, to the world, and reassuring themselves that they have better motives than is true. They themselves have hidden agendas, will fail to deliver on promises, and are looking for others to support them when times get tight, though posturing otherwise. They do not know themselves, are not
being honest with themselves as this is discomfiting, so are hardly known to others by the face they present. If anyone questions this analysis, thinking themselves more mature, then the proof is simple. Go into a messy human situation,
into poverty, disease, helping the lowest of mankind as Mother Theresa did in India, living among them. One does not
have far to go for this, as misery is everywhere. If one balks, makes excuses, cannot stay for more than a moment, then you have your answer! Thus, for those who want a criteria to determine Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self, we say that first you must know yourself, as otherwise you simply cannot determine.
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