ZetaTalk: Actions
Note: added during the Dec 7, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.
Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self orientation cannot be determined strickly by action, by a rule of thumb, as it
depends. As we have explained, a gruff person can be self centered, or just angry because they see that harm will come
to others unaware. A demanding person might be demanding for the self, although presenting the demands as for
others, and this cannot be determined unless one looks to the result of the demand. Someone barking orders can be simply trying to be in control, or trying to organize the confused and disoriented. There is simply no way to describe
every situation, as they all vary. Service-to-Other or Service-to-Self motives are best determined by the result of the action, as a test of motive, and what the individual is willing to do. If an Service-to-Other individual is barking orders, saying that all should move to higher ground, leaving the food stocks, but insists on r emaining with the food stocks, then you have your answer. This individual intends to run off with them, most likely, else would suggest that all carry a portion to higher ground, the food stocks in many hands, not just in the hands of the individual barking orders.
If an Service-to-Other individual is caring for the dying, binding wounds and comforting the frightened, endlessly for
hours, and there is scaresly any benefit to the individual, then they are displaying true Service-to-Other behaviour. If they are insisting on being in a control room sitting on the medical supplies, and parsing out based on intellectual
decisions as to need, then this is suspect. Thus, one should look to the actions, the willingness of the individual to get down and dirty, to share decisions, to dispurse goods into many hands, to trust others, etc. This is not an easy answer for those who are not mature souls, who can recognize instantly the orientation of another.
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ZetaTalk: Sharing Supplies
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ZetaTalk: Sharing Supplies
written December 15, 2007
We have a POD outside with stored goods such as water, etc. When the time comes and people are
leaving the coasts for inland higher hills, and rampaging, pillaging, etc as they go, is it morally ethical to
protect goods with a gun with the possibility of having to shoot people because they are determined to
steal? My first impression is that killing is only allowed when one's person is in danger with that being the
only option to prevent the self from being killed. What about property like that which is outside the house
and basically essential to our survival? Of course, invasion inside the home, I would assume is okay to
protect oneself.
In anticipation of crop shortages and the consequent rising price of food, many people have been steadily stocking up.
Those who are anticipating the pole shift realize that there are many months, if not years, between the devastation of
the pole shift and that point where a community can produce food to feed the community. Rice and beans and canned
good are stashed in as large a quantity as the budget can allow, with the family eating the older supplies and
replenishing. When the matter of having one's stock discovered by looting gangs comes up in discussions, the first
thought is to defend the stock in the same manner one would defend the home. Is this not theft? Is it fair that those
who planned and sacrificed in order to be prepared must share with those who partied until the end and then expected
to be taken care of by others? Normally, this would be considered theft, but when there is no distribution of foods to
stores, no food available to be purchased or secured by barter, what is the father of a hungry family to do?
Food fights occur because there is unequal distribution of what is available among the survivors. If there are gangs of healthy adults who are simply out to loot whatever another has, they should be treated like criminals. In that a police force is not available and the phone lines are down preventing anything like a 911 call, survival communities must use
a vigilante force in these matters. It is far better to choose a location remote from cities, in rural areas, so as to keep a low profile and to stay out of the traffic lanes. But if one is trapped near a city or in the traffic lanes, then addressing the nature of the intruders is imperative. Service-to-Self gangs can be identified and give many clues as to their nature.
They will be loaded with weapons and well fed, will not have any young or aged with them, and will probably be
dragging captives they consider slaves or a future meal in a pinch along with them. These gangs should be dispatched
without hesitation.
Those survivors who are good of heart will arrive ragged, the babes and toddlers being carried and the fact that they
had been given food before the adults have eaten obvious as they will appear in good shape. Oldsters and the lame and
wounded may be part of the group, being assisted along by the other adults. These people should not be turned away.
If there is not enough food to support the newcomers, they should be given a good meal and sent on their way to seek
another spot. If it is clear they will soon starve if sent on their way, then decisions should be made based on the whole of the survivor group, including the newcomers and those who put aside a stock of food to begin with, as to who will
live and die. Clearly, anyone overweight should not eat anything but weeds for vitamin content. Anyone with a fatal disease or condition should consider dying sooner rather than later, for the good of others. Certainly, having
unprotected sex so pregnancies result should be forbidden, and this decision should be enforced. If someone is only
thinking of their pleasure, they should be expelled from the community. In many cultures, the aged volunteer to starve
by refusing food and water so they pass quickly and painlessly.
In these matters, it is the soul that survives, and the soul must live with any decisions it makes. If you deny food to a starving toddler so that you can live, then what is the quality of your life afterwards?
Anyone who has a stock of food who does not
Many people view with alarm the thought of
find themselves at odds with the authorities
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ZetaTalk: Sharing Supplies
food shortages and struggling with other
will still be subject to theft from gangs or
people to wrest away a loaf of bread or fist
hungry neighbors. t is almost a welcome sign,
fights over a bag of flour or rice. They view
saying come take this from me. The word
with alarm such thoughts, and their first
would go out that this person or that person
thoughts are to stock up, to buy many of these has a stock of food. So, in the end, hording is
items. Hoarding cannot be disguised. The
not a solution, even for those people who think