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Note: below written during the Sep 7, 2002 IRC Session.

In the past, the elite in the US planned to go underground in facilities such as Mt. Weather. Mt. Weather, like Greenbriar, got revealed and of course this ruined their ability to house the elite out of the reach of the maddening mob. Many, many other facilties were constructed, as rumored, with the idea that the pole shift would ruin the atmosphere but not cause extensive quakes and shifting of the crust. In those days, the CIA, who was dominant in MJ12 in the early years, listened to the Service-to-Self aliens who impressed them with technology, and talked their language, frankly, one Service-to-Self group to another. The Service-to-Self aliens spoke of saving the few, the elite, and leaving the masses to their lot. This resonated with the CIA, who were composed at the start with recruits from the Nazi SS.

What the CIA did not understand was that these Service-to-Self aliens were not into truth telling, and cared not for the CIA one wit. The goal is to harvest Service-to-Self souls, and the more hardened the better, so despair and a sense of being abandoned and abused were the emotions and setting they hoped to achieve. Thus, they lulled the CIA into believing they would survive, even encouraging the Sr. Bush to institute underground facilities in Houston, which will be under water well before the shift. During the past few years, while the truth of these Service-to-Self aliens vs the truth of ZetaTalk have emerged, some hysteria has emerged among the elite. The orginal underground facilities, which were in areas subject to flooding or mountain building, were abandoned in the plans, and new facilities such as Kokomo begun. The problem with these new facilities is that the construction has revealed them, and thus they too are no longer suitable. Thus, at this time, all plans are up in the air, though any and all facilities may in fact be used by the desperate. They will be entombed, or drowned, or attacked by angry mobs gaining entry, and thus in the true light of Karma get what they deserve.

Note: below added during the Dec 21, 2002 Live ZetaTalk IRC Session.

The US with their Mt. Weather is not alone in their expectation that underground facilities would be the best bet in the event of a possible pole shift. Human scientists present, in their limited view, the nuclear winter scenario, where all life above ground would die. Humans tend to put a few facts into the mix, ignoring a massive amount of other facts, and thus come up with wrong conclusions. This is done for several reasons,

the limited human IQ,

the desire to arrive at a conclusion and thus limiting the options,

limited human knowledge.

Thus, given the projection that a nuclear winter, caused by volcanic eruption, could and perhaps has happened in the past (as in the case of the presumed dinosaur extinction), the elite planned to go underground and live several decades thus.

In fact, as we have stated and any thorough analysis of the facts will present, dinosaur extinction was not caused by a nuclear winter, as not all forms were so affected, thus it was species selective, not global. It was a virus, not a nuclear winter. But given that military personnel are not known for their deep thinking, are brusque and bossy, they grabbed at the projections and plotted their course. Given the size of the quakes, Richter 9 force worldwide, with mountain building and renting of continental rifts, these underground facilities will hardly be a safe place. It takes little to trap an outlet, torque an elevator such that it cannot rise or fall, and create panic in the tomb. Air circulation will not work, slowly smothering those trapped inside. Water will find its way into underground pockets, drowning those trapped. Electrical equipment will falter, plunging those into darkness. A fitting end of the elite who have, in their greed for power and wealth, sent the poor into mines and such circumstances.

ZetaTalk: Communism

Note: written on Oct 15, 1996

Equalitarian experiments on 3rd Density worlds almost invariably run amuck, as the actions of the group never follow the ideal. All to work equally hard, according to their talents falls under the intractable laziness that is natural to all without a strong sense of responsibility toward others. This is the majority, on 3rd Density worlds. Thus, when on the honor system, less and less gets done by fewer and fewer individuals. Add to this the ideal that the talented or accomplished are not to boast or receive reward for their endeavors beyond what the least of the group receives. Motivation to contribute is countered when the lazy in the group are all about, doing as little as possible. Rules against benefiting at the expense of others falls to bribery, and a black market system evolves and thence essentially rules the economic system, as it did in Russia.

Communism failed as mankind was not ready for the system, not because the ideal is not worthy. Service- to-Other groups operate with what might be construed to be Communistic ideals - all sharing the assets of the group and cared for by the group, regardless of their contribution. The difference is the spiritual maturity of the group, as where all care for the group's outcome as much as they care for themselves, the system works. Communism as a concept has been introduced into human society repeatedly, and in fact can be found as a family concept in most households. It goes by different names but the theme is the same - one for all and all for one, united we stand where divided we fall, the family that prays together stays together, and do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Nothing wrong with the ideal, just make sure everyone in the group is as dedicated as you.